The2000Club

/Discussion /Mini /Micro /Nano?

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People who have written a bot with a RoboRumble@Home rating of over 2000 points with at least 1000 battles fought (500 till June 2006) in the general 1-v-1 category.

Name	Flag	Bot	Date of admission	Screenshot
1. Jamougha		RaikoMX 0.28	March 9th, 2004	screenshot
2. ABC		Shadow 2.49	March 14th, 2004	screenshot
3. Axe		SilverSurfer 1.22	April 17th, 2004	screenshot
4. PEZ		Pugilist 1.9.9.1	May 21th, 2004	[screenshot]
5. deathcon		Shiva 1.1	June 9th, 2004	[screenshot]
6. mue		Ascendant 0.6.3	July 3rd, 2004	screenshot
7. jim		DarkHallow 0.55	July 9th, 2004	[screenshot]
8. Pulsar		PulsarMax 0.3.20	July 31st, 2004	[screenshot]
9. iiley&Xiemin		Pear 0.58	October 23rd, 2004	[screenshot]
10. David Alves		Phoenix 0.1	November 1st, 2004	[screenshot]
11. Alcatraz		Cyanide 1.65	November 15th, 2004	[arch-ranking]
12. Florent		Toad 0.5	October 5th, 2005	[arch-ranking]
13. Voidious		Dookious 0.72	January 28th, 2006	[screenshot]
14. wcsv		PowerHouse 1.5f	February 18th, 2006	[screenshot]
15. Kev		WaveSerpent 0.51b	May 28th, 2006	[screenshot]
16. Corbos		Chalk 2.4	June 22nd, 2006	[screenshot]
17. GrubbmGait		GresSuffurd 0.2.1	January 17th, 2007	[screenshot]
18. Krabb		Garm 0.7d	January 18th, 2007	[screenshot]
19. Simonton		WeeksOnEnd 1.10	January 31, 2007	[screenshot]
20. Skilgannon		DrussGT 0.1.4	September 16, 2007	[screenshot]
21. AaronR		Horizon 1.0betaF4	November 7, 2007	[screenshot]
22. Rednaxela		RougeDC Beta4a	May 25, 2008	[screenshot]
23. Tim Foden		Drifter 26c	8th July 2008	[screenshot]
24. Zyx		YersiniaPestis? 0.1beta	12th March 2009	[screenshot]

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I added CassiusClay and used mue's screenshot that shows him over 2k with nearly 700 battles. Don't know what a correct date would be. -- Kuuran

• Removed it since this is a list of people, not bots. I kinda like being the only member with a mini. =) -- PEZ

Kindly request permission to join on July 31, 2004 (screenshot available). -- Pulsar

You don't need permission dude. That screenshot is your ticket. -- PEZ

Added Pear, dunno if the authors are correct, please correct if not... -- Axe

Thank you Axe, the authors are absolutely correct. -- iiley

And, i am thinking of the flag of here, can we have the Chinese flag here, Pear 0.58 should be a chinese bot, since there was no one else joined our Tide project. -- iiley

First version of Phoenix barely gets me in, 2001.6 after 724 battles. :-) --David Alves

Added Toad and corrected countryflag URL. --GrubbmGait

Well, just by the skin of my teeth, but it counts :-D Hooray! -- Voidious

No fair, Nanos only go up to 1800 or so :) --Miked0801

• Nano bots snub their noses at megabots, so it is fitting. -- Martin
• You could make an 1800Club for NanoBots, maybe? Seems reasonable enough to me ;) -- Voidious

There should be "clubs" for each weight class I think. Breaking 2000 means you can score almost 80% on average against the population of bots in the weight class in question. No nano comes close. Freddie scores 65.8% against other nanos. 80% seems quite unreachable, but that doesn't mean it is. -- PEZ

That would make you the only Robocoder to be in two 2000 clubs, wouldn't it? There's a record worthy of mention. -- Greywhind

And it's with the same bot. =) -- PEZ

Some more info about relative ratings: excluding ad.last.Bottom (which dominates this calculation, for obvious reasons), the standard deviation for the MegaBot ratings (203) is close to double that of the NanoBot ratings (121). Given a center of 1600, this makes a MegaBot 2000 very close to a NanoBot 1800 in terms of standard deviations. -- Voidious

If this actually interests anyone, the standard deviations are 185 and 165 for MiniBots and MicroBots, respectively. (I'd guesstimate 1950 and 1900 equivalents in those two, then, but obviously it's all arbitrary anyway.) -- Voidious

Congrats Kev! When is that 16th birthday, again? =) -- Voidious

Well actually it's in only two days! And it looks like you may have spoken too soon... WaveSerpent has dropped down to 1998. Being in The2000Club is great, but I'd like to see WaveSerpent with a 2000+ rating after 1000 battles. Another release is coming tomorrow. Will I make it? Wish me luck... -- Kev

Yeah, good luck! No doubt you want to stay afloat above 2000, but until the rules change, you made the club (2k after 500 battles.)I think you have the "youngest to reach 2K" award by a large margin, anyway. (Alcatraz was 17.) Nice job! -- Voidious

Great, this is an excellent (few days early) birthday present! WaveSerpent 0.51c is released with a few movement tweaks. It preforms well enough in tests to make me think it will reach 2000, but only time will tell. And I think deathcon was 16 when Shiva got in. -- Kev

Big congrats to Corbos - talk about "not getting rusty"... I guess this is the year the Americans take over? =) Great job, Corbos! -- Voidious

Waiting anxiously to see... Good luck KID! --David Alves

Oh, I couldn't enter the 2K club with this bot, it's half mine and half PEZ's. That would just be wrong! Besides, when I make it, I'll make it by myself. -- KID

Congratulations to GrubbmGait! He finally got in this club before myself ;( --Krabb

Congrats Krabb! What a close race between you two. Keep up the good work ;) -- Voidious

Contradulations, looks like I lost. Trying to push myself the last few days led me to be so exausted I slept the rest of the day yesterday after returning from class. --Chase-san

Congratulations to both of you Krabb and GrubbmGait! -- Kev

Yeah, congrats to myself and Krabb :-D With some more people knocking on the door this could be a fertile year. -- GrubbmGait

Whats next? A race to 2025? the top 10? the top 5? king?

Thanks :) I would propose top 10 as the next aim. --Krabb

I feel more like a 2050 rating . . . let me check what place that is ;-p -- GrubbmGait

Thats top 10. --Chase-san

It is right now, anyways :-) -- Kawigi

Well, I guess I was a bit late your y'all's race, but here is my entry. :) I have a screen shot, but I don't have webspace - so if anyone would be so kind ... -- Simonton

And the 2nd person (after PEZ) to have a MiniBot as their ticket =) Great work! (And added a screenshot.) -- Voidious

Congrats Simonton! I already stated that you were an outsider (sports-wise) meaning that you were capable doing it, even with a mini! -- GrubbmGait

Congrats, Skilgannon! =) Looks like you ended the longest dry spell since Alcatraz / Florent.

Thanks! Do you think that the level is getting higher, or are people losing interest, or what? -- Skilgannon

Hehe, I should really start on movement, but I wanna get this gun to be able to kick most bots in the teeth first. And also Congratz! --Chase-san

ProtoDruss? is currently at 2011 with 500 battles or so, but I think the movement more defines the robot then the gun, so I decline membership if it stays long enough to become stable. --Chase-san

That and I would much perfer to make it on my own, it just wouldn't feel right to make it this way. Its at 2006 at 1439 battles. And if I never make it, well there are plenty of great robocoders that never made the 2000 club. ;) --Chase-san

• I've been at it 2 years and my peak has been about 1840. -- Martin

Congrats dude! =) And by quite a margin, sheesh! -- Voidious

Welcome in this prestigious club. This is a good year. -- GrubbmGait

Welcome, AaronR! -- Simonton

Holy ... that's not right! Take it back! I forgot something important!

public class Horizon extends AdvancedRobot {
	static {
		components.add(new RadarLock());
		components.add(new DynamicClusteringWaveSurfingMovement());
		components.add(new RaikoGun());
		//components.add(new GFTargetingBotGun());
		//components.add(new DynamicClusteringGuessFactorGun());
	}
}

Oooops... -- AaronR

Booooooooo! Go back home!!!!!!! Shame and humiliation to you!! ;) -- Simonton

So much for my 140 point jump... ;) But the real new version of Horizon appears to be an improvement anyway, so I guess I should be happy. -- AaronR

I think I'm back in with 1.0betaF4. =) -- AaronR

Congratulations! Add yourself! --David Alves

Big congrats, dude! -- Voidious

Very nice, very nice. -- Simonton

• Hey, you were the one who found the bug! =) -- AaronR
• Heh, it takes more than finding 1 bug to get into The2000Club! -- Simonton

Great job! -- Kev

Good work. I need to work hard so I can get in here. --Chase-san

Hmm... I don't have anywhere where I can put the screenshot. Didn't Voidious (graciously) host the screenshot for my first "admission"? -- AaronR

Ah, just barely caught me before bed =) Screenshot is up. -- Voidious

• Thanks! Wow, that was fast. =) -- AaronR

I just like to think about how proud I am to be the first member of The2000Club hailing from the great country of _______. Also, congratulations to Skilgannon, the first member of The2100Club from !@#$%^&*()_+.

=P -- AaronR

Yeah, we're pretty unique, huh? =) -- Skilgannon

While technically not from the country, if I ever make it (<.<), I will be the first representing JJJJJ in the 2000 area, which seems a little odd huh. --Chase-san

Well then... now that RougeDC is [well over 2000] with my own gun as opposed to the gun it used in the Raiko gun it used in the early releases, I think I'm ready to join in on the party here! I have no place to host a screenshot though because my university hosting is down currently, but yeah... :) -- Rednaxela

Nice work! (Not that I didn't see this coming ;-) ) Screenshot added... -- Skilgannon

Thanks! Also, sorry to spoil your uniqueness of being a The2000Club member from !@#$%^&*()_+ =P -- Rednaxela

Just managed to squeak onto the bottom of the 2000+ RR@H mega ratings with Drifter 26c. :) Thought I'd better enter it before it fell off again! -- Tim Foden

Congrats! Looks like Drifter is stable at 2001 =) -- Skilgannon

• Thanks! Your successful use of Crowd Targetting, and reading Albert's comments on the BestPSpace page, inspired me to try it. Drifter 26c is using CT for both surfing and targetting. Its still early days for this code in Drifter so I'll hopefully be able to squeeze a lot more performance out of it. -- Tim Foden

Congrats dude! -- Voidious

• Thanks man! -- Tim Foden

Anyone noticed that Chase-san entered this club due to the ratingdrift? And that, after years, SandboxDT and Aleph are very close too ? -- GrubbmGait

I added Zyx to this club, the first of 2009! --Nat

• Thanks Nat.
• I'm confusing when adding you. Do you want 0.1beeta or 1.0? It all above 2000, but I think you should more proud of 0.1beta to enter the club more than 1.0 anyway... --nat
• Yes 0.1beta is the first one who got in, so it should be it. Also I think there is a big bug in 1.0, but I've been busy to check. --Zyx

Good job. I'll be here some day. --Chase

I'll go there before you if I can, but almost all my robots now becoming PhoeniX :) (mean that take 3 years to develop) Do anyone know that Zyx enter robocode community for only 2 months and 19 days! (count from first newton page: Nov, 25) I think he is the fastest one. Anyone embarrassed? Especially Paul Evans. I'm going for youngest one (I'm 13 until July 3, hope Awesomeness, who is 13 years old, will enter just after his 14th birthday) --Nat

• Now I'm getting embarrassed. To be fair, I haven't invented anything, only implemented what others have done, hopefully someday I will become known for inventing something. -- Zyx
• Then only Shadow is the top-ten bot that has its own gun/movement. It is not to be embarrassed. Only two parts of your code I believed is come from another robot, Precise Prediction and KdTree. The left is more than enough to said that it is your. As Crazybasoonist said to me "Ok, I thought that the pm code is not yours, but the robot is." It is not about fair, it is about you write it, or stole it as my GF/PM gun in my BlackHole? Anyway, [quote=simonton]"Don't use my code until (unless?) you fully understand it and can rewrite it from scratch". I believed that nearly no one can create Wave Surfing code from blank notepad without robocode source. (The Precise Prediction, which, I believed, from only 2 place, Apollon and FuturePosition) --Nat
  • Of course you can write a Wave Surfer from scratch without any references, I am sure people like ABC, Kawagi, Voidious and David Alves have done that sort of thing before (If only so be sure they understand it, to find any carefully disguised bugs, and to make code that is completely theirs). --Chase
    • I don't belived ABC write it from scatch, at least I think he copy Precise Prediction from robocode source. --Nat
      • If I remember correctly, ABC 'invented' wave surfing. Either it was him or Kawagi. --Chase
        • Yes, ABC invent wave surfing, but the Albert's FuturePosition is here before (I believe). At last I know that Shadow use that library because there are class apv.MovSim? in shadow source. --Nat
          • I think Chase meant writing it from scratch nowadays, I've written different surfers from scratch and without reference, but of course the first one was a transcription of BasicSurfer, and the next few needed me to read some parts again. --Zyx
• I meant embarrassed as blushing or something like that. Of course I am proud of my code, even when it only won against the sample bots. And of course, the wiki is here to teach, so I don't feel bad for using what I've learned. What I tried to express is that writing the code isn't as big an accomplishment as inventing a method, and you mentioned Paul Evans, who I believe influenced current Robocode algorithms the most. Because even WaveSurfing is easier to invent after GuessFactorTargeting has been created. --Zyx
  • I do believed GF are invented by both Paul Evans and David Alves. --Nat
    • I wasn't even close to be here when that happened, but I thought I read somewhere (and most people credit) Paul Evans as the inventor. But I wouldn't be surprised if the two came up with similar ideas at relatively the same time, and of course writing such a code for the first time gives a reasonable big window of time. Or maybe they worked it out together, only someone who was around could tell :). --Zyx
• To be fair, using a KDTree in your gun doesn't really improve you score. What it really does is make your bot run faster. If I ever get the time I plan to write my own KDTree, optimised, as the rest of DrussGT is, for execution speed. But until then, Simonton's tree works wonders for keeping the rumble running quickly. And I have done very little in the way of inventions, perhaps the most I can boast is my high speed goto-predictor and having the most movement buffers of any bot in the rumble. -- Skilgannon
• You will not hold on most buffers so long. As my plan, I'm creating BlackHole for about 500 buffers but I hard coded it so it has very long code. (I'm 500 array and sum all of the bin every tick) --Nat
• Also, I would not be surprised if you beat me, I am not actively developing any robots, I have moved to C/C++/ASM recently and have been writing emulators (gb,gbc,nes).. and mobile applications. I might eventually come back and write a robot, if only to see how I have progressing in my own programming ability. --Chase
  • You should wait for a while until Pavel release .NET/Scala?/JavaScript? version for Robocode that can make you happier :-) If I can, I'll implement C (through Java Native API) and PHP for robocode someday. Hope you can get robocode run on Gameboy Advanced through your emulator, just kidding. =D --Nat
  • If Robocode where in C/C++ I'd be so happy, I have never really understood(or liked) Java myself. I really hate the idea of a Garbage Collector, and I'm barely an above average Java programmer, C/C++ is what the programming Gods wants us to use. I'm actually kidding, I don't like Java(as a personal opinion), but I admit it has several advantages on many occasions, and for APIs like Robocode is probably the most suitable language. And Chase, I hope you do come back and develop a Robot, the more people the more fun this can be :-), but I understand life usually drives us in different directions as we would like it to. --Zyx
  • Pavel tell me that C# will out with 1.7.3. Now, half of robocode's revision commit each night is from him to make .NET robocode. I'm not really sure with C/C++ because Java Native API is operation-dependent and not secure at all. Or we should write out c interpreter in java :-) And JAVA Native API is really a hell! It is C, not C++ but it allow me to call function on struct! I'm not very good in C/C++ at all, at least not the Pointer. You will not believe me that I don't know how to use STL but know it functionality is equivalent to Java Collection Framewok. I always wrote C code, even the extension is .cpp. Here are my technique to learn java, only thing you should do is to forget the C/C++ completely. --Nat
  • Well I couldn't forget about C++, I spend maybe 10 hours per week writing in Java(90% from Robocode :), but around 40 hours in C++. And I'm positive you can write C++ code using JNI, not only C. About the STL, many people who actually claims to be proficient in C++ barely knows how to use the STL effectively. But anyway, I wouldn't use JNI in Robocode, I know nothing about .NET, and a C interpreter would lose all the benefits of C so I'd better stick to Java. --Zyx
    • Well C++ isn't my best area yet, but I am very good in C, and ASM is always a learning experience, despite being so simple it is really the most complex because of that simplicity. I was originally a C programmer before I came to Java and Robocode. --Chase
      • Knowing C and OO Programing, changing to C++ is just about deciding to do so. It took me long time to dismiss my C programming habits, but now I'm glad I did, the only thing I kept and probably will forever is the <stdio.h> interface to files. --Zyx